See it
http://spacequest.wikia.com/wiki/Elmo_Vohaul_Pug
http://spacequest.wikia.com/wiki/Sludge_Vohaul




WTF?!

That's the trouble with wikis.

Someone's having too much fun.

Yeah, that's from the Space Quest Companion book.

Wow, really? Yikes, this adds a whole new dimension to the SQ canon.

This kind of makes me wish people would say where their information on these sort of things comes from, though. I actually persuaded the admin of the KQ Wiki to add a system of footnotes that shows the sources of the more obscure information on the various pages. A good chunk of information on that Wiki is from the King's Quest Companion and the three KQ novels, and I was sure that a lot of people who haven't read these books were looking at the Wiki and thinking "That town's name is Port Bruce? Rosella saved Daventry from a hoard of rampaging weevils?? Who edits this thing!?"

Yeah, the two SQ wiki pages cited did actually have the references there.

The Space Quest Companion, Second Edition, 172, 175; and The Space Quest Companion, Second Edition, 383, respectively.

Incidentally the current main editor of both the KQ and SQ wikis is the same guy, Baggins.

Wait, I always thought that Slash and Sludge were brothers - or even just merely partners. You know, like Dr. Light and Dr. Wily? At least, that's the impression that I got from the SQ FAQ.

I always thought they were brothers. Same last names, similar first names, both researchers on the same project...And of course, the SQ FAQ said they were brothers, so...

Ah, touché. Sorry, I should have actually checked those pages out for myself.


I think I once read a fanfic or two where Slash actually is Sludge -- he just changed his name when he turned evil (I don't remember the reason why). I don't think the Slash/Sludge connection is ever explained in the games.

I seem to recall reading that as well, but I can't remember where exactly I found it. Time to go explore all the old Space Quest sites hiding in my bookmarks!

That's not ingame, though - that could've been speculation on Frans' part.

Damn, you mean nobody explain in SQ1-6 who are Slash & Sludge Vohauls?! And even Scott Murphy and etc guys?!!

Texts in sq.net site are jokes (disinformation) too?!!! O_o Planets, characters and etc facts?! Frans, where are you?

The whole Slash/Sludge thing is very vague. The Space Quest Companion or whatever it was called has one story but some people don't consider it official (much like how the King's Quest Companion made Mordack, Manannan, AND Hagatha siblings). Some people say that Slash is Sludge's good brother (something I always seemed to believe) and some say that Sludge IS Slash and that he was never really good at all.

SQN does contain fanon. Details mostly. A good example is the name Ueffo Bleeblenarf (http://www.spacequest.net/sq3/characters/). Made up by Jess of the Broomcloset. Or, now I must also mention The Gorminium Asteroid Belt (http://www.spacequest.net/sq6/planets/). Something I'm sure I made up. Who's said Xenon planned 12 XOS for instance? Or that the Garbage Freighter used "two X29ION below-warp mark 7 engines: the strongest ever created."? Or that Phleebhut is "On a given day, at least 20% of the planet is covered with extremely nasty lightning storms. " The percentage is of course made up. Or that WD-40's wship "has 4 proton torpedo tubes, that can be reloaded within the second. It can reach speeds up to warp 7, thanks to the Zeon treble trail spikes. It cost a mere 1.999.999.999,99 buckazoids! " Complete nonsense of course. None of this, however, messes with the story lines as the Elmo Vohaul example. That I considered unacceptable.

I wrote most of the SQN stuff in my teens. I always worked very hard to avoid mistakes in the storylines. It was always my intention to make SQN the ultimate resource on Space Quest. Sure I got carried away at points and SQN contains its own set of mistakes and assumptions. Where the games lacked detail I allowed myself some writers freedom. But whenever there are fact, the website lists them. I never minded introducing some fanon, but I used it sparingly and with a lot of thought and respect to the storylines. Elmo Vohaul is a horrible example that would never had made it onto SQN.

Some things like that are told so many times over that they have become accepted as fact... Thus, fanon, I guess you could say. A lot of these things were discussed in the past with fellow space quest fans and accepted. I would always have removed or changed things the community consider unacceptable to its standards. Call it disinformation if you will. Fair enough.

Quickly glancing back at the website, I was most in love with the first three games. The pages about these sequels also contain the most "disinformation". Keep in mind that Scott notes about SQN:

"If you want to know a lot more about game details, etc., go to http://www.spacequest.net. Frans van Hofwegen and company have done a truly great job of supplying Space Quest fans with probably way more than they wanted to know, but it’s the place to go if you have any game related questions."

... I guess that's my way of saying Scott allowed a lot of the stuff I came up with. I talked with him about a lot of stuff. A whole lot.

This following is straight from Scott Murphy himself, written down in Troels' FAQ. The only official story goes like this:

http://www.spacequest.net/sq2/characters/
http://www.spacequest.net/sq4/characters/

So, Slash was his brother, just not the Siamese twin brother. Also according to Scott. Elmo is not related in any way. Nothing points in that direction. It's pure speculation by the writter of the Space Quest Companion, who is way off on loads of things when you read the books.

Later on, I always thought the scientist who walks into the archival room of the Arcada was Slash. But that's wishful thinking on my part.

God, I love these games.

Frans, really thanks for reply Now I see.

Wow, thanks for that lengthy explanation, Frans. It's been a while since I've read the SQ FAQ, and I must have forgotten that bit where Sludge is said to be a Siamese twin. (I didn't find the part in the SQ FAQ where it said that Slash wasn't Sludge's twin, though.)

And yes, the author of the KQ and SQ Companions used a heck of a lot of artistic license in his stories, sometimes to the point where it blatantly contradicts the content of the games. They are interesting reads (the KQC, at least, I've yet to get my hands on the SQC), but sometimes I wonder just how much they should be considered canon. After all, giving the nameless town in KQ3 a name is a good idea, but having the name and the name's history be a reference to The Incredible Hulk is kind of...weird.

Hey Akril. If I have had a religion, it would have been Space Quest. Chapter 2.4.4 of the SQFAQ reads:

Sludge had some rather unfavorable friends (unfavorable to the galaxy of
Earnon, anyway), and he arranged for his "disappearance" shortly after the
Arcada set out to test the Generator and was transferred to the Sarien
battlecruiser Deltaur. The Sariens owed him a favor, and Sludge commanded
them to attack the Arcada and steal the Generator back. Then, he would use
the Generator on Xenon and thusly killing everybody on the planet.

Scott Murphy also states, that Sludge has another reason for being mad
at Xenon. In his own words: "He was originally a siamese twin." [Not
Slash. -ed] "The other twin got the good organs and Sludge was sold off to
research. He has not lived peacefully with this knowledge. Kinda put him
in a full time pissy mood. Never quite made peace with that." However, none
of this is mentioned in any of the games. Sludge states, in Space Quest 2,
that the reason why he stole the Generator was to make Xenon pay. According
to Scott, he also holds a grudge against his parents for playing with his
genetics. However, he *did* work with Slash on the Generator, until he found
out it was to be used for *saving* lives rather than destroying them, as he
states in SQ2, and confirmed by Scott Murphy.

...

Big ol' 16 year old, now almost 30 year old Troels, messes up though. Earnon is not a galaxy. It's a solar system. But that's besides the point
....

Did you guys know SQN is still being visited by over 6000 unique visitors each month? Amazing, ain't it? But where the hell is everybody? I mean, with such a big crowd and the need for social web 2.0 -esque indulgents these days, why aren't they here on the forum?

I suspect that they don't bother posting for two reasons. First, there's not much to discuss, at least, as far as new topics go. Secondly, the community doesn't seem to be very welcoming, though that likely stems from the fact that there is a lack of topics to discuss. It seems like new members show up, post in a few topics and drop off the face of the Earth.

It's too bad, really. Now that I've finally found the free time to start checking up on my old forum haunts daily, I find they're all ghost towns.

So 'Andromedian' Scott creates bonus for story, but doesn't add it to game... Maybe smb from Sierra should do it in SQ7 (there'd be Vohaul, as I know)

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About "Janitoral Times". Maybe forum-guys from this forum need to create some project from this site?

For example in Russian SQ-forum we, of course, yet haven't ideas for new topics, etc. But also there're creativity topics, topics about creating games on AGS, so forum is alive almost always (a.a.a.).

I told you to start create "Space Quest Mania", when you all guys (with any graphics and any plots) will be creating SQ serial with not big episodes from each forum-guy.

I think, each fan can & need to create smth about SQ, or better himself SQ.


For now we've 5 scary-graphics SQ episodes for Russian SQ Mania. There's simple plot: Roger crashed to some planet, there's sort of adventure, then he found ship and continued next adv-s. It's like expromt. General thing is knowing SQ and some canons (or fanons).


Maybe you can play role-games. But IMHO it's fullsheet, for little Harry Potter's likers. So what's up? Let's create international SQ serial

I recommend you easy stuff for creating quests - AGS. I even use just AGS 2.61.


If you know how to use it, I can explain in other topic.

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And why did you stop upgrading site? There's yet a lot of stuff of SQ. And soon we'll have SQ2 VGA & maybe Incineration.